15 that can be put upon it. Then Mr. Borwick, with regard to his enclosures, did not put up fences calculated to last even twenty years, for they were the most rubbishing things that ever were ; and for a good many years past he used to take some money of people who were weak enough to pay to graze upon that land; but he could not keep the cattle in; and they could not keep the cattle out, of the persons who had a right to it, and the inhabitants went in and played cricket and enjoyed themselves on this ground. I have seen them playing hundreds of times upon it. Mr. Borwick also has to refund, not to so large an amount as Mr. Gellatly, but you will have to put it in the same way. It is a mere sum of figures. Mr. Gellatly has a large sum to refund, but he has kept the commoners out of the use of it. I mentioned it before—I will just remind you of it, in case it has escaped your memory—I mean the observation I made in Paul's case. I do not wish to repeat myself or say the same thing over again; but I do say that it was in contemplation to establish a suit for the restitution of that money, and the restitution of that money for these 750 acres of which we, the commoners, have been deprived so long. That money now amounts to a very large sum, certainly to something like £40,000 or £50,000; and when you consider certain gentlemen holding money which the law says belongs to other persons to a large extent like that, it is a serious matter, and is not to be lost sight of, and I believe will not be lost sight of in your judgment upon these matters—that these people, besides the harm they have done in devastating the land and the fields by putting up fences on ground that did not belong to them, have also to refund in some sort of settlement that amount of money which, as I said before, I may choose to give to the fund for the preservation of the forest, or may choose to hand it over to our friends, the City Corporation. The City and myself are friendly antago- nists ; we fought in different lines at first, but now we fight in the same line; and if I have to fight them again, I shall do so, if they need it. Sir, there was one very important thing I wish to bring before your mind, and that is that this very land of Mr. Borwick's the public can reach by tramway from densely populated districts for 2d., and children, I believe, for half-price ; and it is not only within walking distance, which is a much more important fact regarding the habits of recreators, than it is whether it is a good site for building or any consideration of that sort, which I think is an indecent thing even to introduce into argument—that this or that land should be valued for building, when they never had any right to look upon it with the eyes of a builder; and we know very well that builders and surveyors—very worthy, nice men, I dare say, in the ordinary way—but we do know that they would drive a road through the garden of Eden, and that they would build a row of houses on the outskirts of it, if they saw any profit in it. Now, I am going to ask you to depart for a moment out of the land of eloquence, of which you have had an enormous quantity showered upon you ; I do not pretend to it myself; I only pretend to a common sense view of the matter; but a respectable-looking person accosted me in Court upon the last day we were here—I suppose he took me to be a person of more benevolent aspect than is usually met with; and he asked me to inform him why counsel were making all these terrifically long speeches, because he did not see that there was much in it, I said to him, " My friend, as you have asked me, it is to confuse and mislead attention from the issue. The issue is very plain. It is only some gentle- men who have got what they ought not to have, and what does not belong